Someone asked me last night if I was planning to keep blogging now that the marathon is over. Well, the truth is that my inspiration to blog usually comes when I’m on a long run, and since the marathon I really haven’t done any long runs, until today. I did 10 miles (on a treadmill), and it felt absolutely fantastic. I am excited to get back into the habit of doing one long-ish run each week, because it really helps me mentally and emotionally, and provides a great base for when I want to start training for my next run. Today’s run, coupled with a really fantastic message I heard at church, made me decide to get back on the blog wagon.
People who know me well know that I very much enjoy discussing and learning about religions and theology. I don't mind dissent and disagreement, I love to listen to ideas, and I’m not afraid to tell people what I believe. Sometimes it seems like nearly everyone disagrees with me, because I fall neither into the fundamentalist “Christian” camp, or the “spiritual but not religious” camp. Today’s message at church was about this (false) dichotomy. It is often assumed that people fall into one of two categories: fundamentalist (this could apply to any religion, but for the sake of this post, I’m going to use Christian terms), or anything-goes “spiritual but not religious”. On the fundamentalist side are the things that studies have shown most non-Christians view Christians as: narrow minded, exclusivist, very focused on who’s in or who’s out (aka who is “saved”). On the other side is a person who doesn’t hold on to any set of beliefs about God or divinity, or who picks and chooses “cafeteria style” what they want to believe. I would argue that every single person holds cafeteria style faith, but that’s a whole other topic in itself.
Part of the message that I heard today focused on the idea that these two points of view are not dichotomous, but rather are two extremes of a spectrum, and that it’s okay - and positive - to fall in the middle. I’m not sure. If these views are on a spectrum, I definitely don’t think it’s a “normal curve”, with most people in the middle. It seems that most people fall on one end or the other. Maybe it just seems that way because the people who do fall on the extremes are the “loudest”.
I have to admit that I feel more comfortable talking to people on the left end of the “spectrum” than the right. I absolutely cannot subscribe to the idea of a God that would only “save” those who hold a certain religious belief. The fundamentalist Christian view is that God “saves” (i.e. sends to heaven) only those who believe that Jesus is God-incarnate and was resurrected from the dead. This idea is so absurd to me that it’s hard to even talk about rationally. You’re telling me that the Creator/Sustainer of the universe would only let people into heaven if they believe that one man rose from the dead 2,000 years ago?? And every other human being who has ever lived gets condemned to an eternal hell?? It makes NO SENSE in my mind. If my choice is to believe in that or nothing, I would definitely choose nothing.
But maybe there is a third choice.
Today’s message introduced me to the idea that Jesus himself was not exclusivist, and that these exclusionary ideas that are held by some Christians are not the message that Jesus came to bring. After all, Jesus talked to people of all kinds, accepted people of all kinds, welcomed people of all kinds. I’m struggling with this idea, though, because fundamentalists use quotes from Jesus like “no one comes to the father except through me” as evidence that a person who doesn’t believe in Jesus is not following God and therefore is not “saved”. But is it possible that those verses have been taken out of context by people who want to scare others into conforming to their ideas? Is it possible that following Jesus actually means to live one’s life in the way that he did – closing the door to “us vs. them” thinking, treating all people equally, loving one another without regard to differences, helping those who need help? And that it means doing these thing not with the ulterior motive of changing other people’s religious beliefs, but simply because it is the right thing to do? Maybe that’s a view that more of us who fall “in the middle of the spectrum” can get behind.
I welcome any and all feedback regarding these ideas or others. I view beliefs/religions, just like everything else in life, as fluid and dynamic and a constant learning process, not something that is decided upon one time and unchangeable. The views I hold now are nowhere close to those I held 10 years ago, and I would guess that in 10 more years I will be saying the same thing. I'm grateful for the ability to learn, grow, and change.
Great post. I'm glad you're continuing to give us your long-run thoughts!
ReplyDeleteDid you ever get to read Love Wins? Maybe love is greater than who's in and who's out. Maybe no one does come to the Father except through him, BUT that's all on Jesus' side, and Jesus is still able to save, post mortem, those who didn't 'choose' him. It say EVERY knee will bow, every tongue confess... maybe there will be a great reconciliation after death, and love will win in the end. And maybe it's never 'too late' for love.
I minimized this a week ago so I could comment. Still of course didn't have time to write out all of my thoughts in my head, but I would like to propose that it is neither. Both of the extremes you mentioned would commonly unite their belief that organized religion was not the answer- many even go as far as to say Catholics aren't even Christians. Yet in my experience, within churches with a rich historical tradition (of which your and my Lutheran background is a part of) there are still many, many faithful Christians. For some, yes, the practice of a religion becomes a barrier to belief but for others (myself included I hope!) it is a rich expression of faith.
ReplyDeleteI would propose that you have presented a linear number line, but your x axis finds itself in need of a y in order to completely represent the diversity of Christian thoughts and beliefs!
Oh and I agree with the Ashley that we really won't know until after death and I absolutely believe that God has the power to save through his son Jesus even posthumously- all any of us can have is a reasonable hope of salvation. I think it is arrogant (and poor interpretation of scripture, although it is often those most tied to literal translation that make this assumption) to presume to know who will and will not achieve salvation for eternity.
Love you!
Heidi
Something that kinda blew my mind when a retired pastor/Old Testament professor told me this a few years ago was about the phrase before "No one comes to the Father except through me" which is "I am the way, the truth, the life."
ReplyDeleteFirst this was told orally for few decades before it was ever written down and once it was, there is no punctuation in Koine Greek so this verse can read as I wrote it above, which how many fundamentalist take it, that Jesus must be the way to the Father, that you must believe in Jesus to be saved.
Or it can read "I am: the way, the truth, the life; no one comes to the Father except through me." In which case "I am" can refer to God the Father, or as told to Moses "I am who I am" or YWVH and Jesus is speaking on behalf of God, that God is the way, the truth, the life and no one comes to God except through God. Therefore if God is the creator than we all have come to God through Godself. So when you believe that God has created all people, you must also then see that God loves, sustains and saves all people as well.
Great thoughts, Kate. I love that we can explore what it means to seek God, as an object AND as an expression of our lives. If we could all do it, across the x-axis and the possible y-axis (good point, Heidi!) without judging each other for what we are trying to understand, and wouldn't push each other to codify and set our current explorations in stone, then I think faith could be so much more powerful, authentic and true to its purpose in our lives. You are helping that sort of journey happen with 'musings' like this! Thanks for being Jacob's Well in this way. Can't wait to read more.
ReplyDeleteAnd, btw, I do my best thinking on long runs too. Plan on one this afternoon. What is it? The oxygen deprivation?!? :)